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Are men becoming too feminine?

74 Comments 09 November 2009

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Maybe it is  just me, but I see a lot more “feminine” men lately.  These men are arguably described as not being gay, but merely in touch with their feminine side.

Men

  • Do you care to be more feminine?
  • Do you find yourself frequenting the nail shop, hair salon, or having “guys day” shopping trips?
  • Is football more about the color of the uniforms than the athleticism?

Women

  • Do you enjoy doing the nail shop, massage parlor, and getting cucumber facials with your man?
  • Would you care if your man carried a “man purse”?
  • Would you care if your man’s hair was longer and of better condition that yours?

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Are men becoming too feminine?

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  1. Derrick says:

    There’s nothing wrong with having good hygiene. However, a man purse is utterly ridiculous.

  2. Aberk says:

    You forgot to mention those emo/scene fags with really tight jeans, no ass and no man bulge. Their penises have to be crying out in agony.
    I am sick of feminine men. Men should have more tools than clothes and know how to use them to fix shit around the house and do minor car repair. I wont get started on the pussification of men in general..

  3. Emcee says:

    Man purses (messenger bags) are ok if and only if they contain a gun. Otherwise you’re just a fruitcake.

    Derrick: There’s nothing wrong with having good hygiene.However, a man purse is utterly ridiculous.

    Good hygiene has nothing to do with shiny nails.

  4. Marcus says:

    Aberk: You forgot to mention those emo/scene fags with really tight jeans, no ass and no man bulge.Their penises have to be crying out in agony.
    I am sick of feminine men.Men should have more tools than clothes and know how to use them to fix shit around the houseand do minor car repair.I wont get started on the pussification of men in general..

    I’ll be the first to say I don’t know how to fix anything around the house and I don’t want to. I went to school so I wouldn’t have to use all sorts of saws, wrenches, automatic ladders, electrical tape, and such.

    I used to change my oil before I started getting manicures and I thought about getting a man bag (its kind of expensive though). If you think that makes me less manly than you then we can put the fists up!

    Please further discuss the pussification of men in more detail.

  5. Marcus says:

    Emcee: Man purses (messenger bags) are ok if and only if they contain a gun.Otherwise you’re just a fruitcake.
    Good hygiene has nothing to do with shiny nails.

    Dusty nails have nothing to do with being a man.

  6. Derrick says:

    Emcee:
    Good hygiene has nothing to do with shiny nails.

    Black nails are good hygiene????

  7. Kandi says:

    To answer the question, I don’t think heterosexual men are becoming too feminine by getting manicures/pedicures. I think that’s an added bonus. It shows that he’s secure enough and open-minded enough to take care of himself. No woman wants a man with rough, calloused, raggedy, jagged nails on their hands or feet. It’s a sure turnoff especially when she’s ready to get physically connected to him. Sure they don’t need to be polished with tips on them or anything of that nature but they do need to be taken care of. There is nothing more attractive than a man whose neat, looks good, smells good (breath inclusive), and takes pride in the way he looks – without going overboard. Just like men want us women to meet the criteria, women want the same. Can’t step out looking flawless with a dusty looking dude by our side. Not complimenting at all. Now, a man purse?? No sir buddy …a wallet is just fine. If he needs more than that, then Houston, we have a problem.

  8. Latoya says:

    I would have to agree with Kandi. My man is a decorated Air Force officer, but has a hobby of rehabbing houses, which can cause the ugly hands that Kandi speaks of….I will manicure his hands if that is what it takes to keep them looking the way I want them to. There is nothing wrong with a man that wears nice clothing and has a genuine concern about his hygiene and appearance. When he has a twist in his walk and is in the mirror longer than I am is when it becomes a problem. And the man bag…..definitely needs to have a gun or something that is vital to survival in it…..not a manicure set and lip gloss!

  9. Marcus says:

    Why is everybody hating on the man bag?

  10. Derrick says:

    Marcus: Why is everybody hating on the man bag?

    LOL. Do you have a man bag?

  11. Marcus says:

    I thought about it when I used to carry around a pda, wallet, cell phone, keys, and a business note pad. Instead of getting the bag I just got rid of some of the crap.

  12. Nita says:

    John Gray, a Christian comedian on TBN, said it best…He said that he does not have a feminine side. He said he may have an emotional side, but that doesn’t make him feminine. He said whatever he had that was feminine God took out and made Eve and when he gets back with her he will have his feminine side. I think that men should just be who God created them to be.

  13. Marcus says:

    Nita: John Gray, a Christian comedian on TBN, said it best…He said that he does not have a feminine side.He said he may have an emotional side, but that doesn’t make him feminine.He said whatever he had that was feminine God took out and made Eve and when he gets back with her he will have his feminine side. I think that men should just be who God created them to be.

    So what about the outright gay dudes? Are they good to go too?

  14. Nita says:

    Marcus: So what about the outright gay dudes? Are they good to go too?

    What do you mean are they good? No sir…gay is not good, unless it is only referencing you being happy…not being with the same sex happy…joyful happy!

  15. Emcee says:

    Derrick:
    Black nails are good hygiene????

    Clean is very different than shiny. Please re-read all statements…mmk? Thanks, b-bye.

  16. Emcee says:

    Nita:
    What do you mean are they good?No sir…gay is not good, unless it is only referencing you being happy…not being with the same sex happy…joyful happy!

    I love how people think all gays choose to be gay.

  17. Derrick says:

    Emcee:
    Clean is very different than shiny.Please re-read all statements…mmk?Thanks, b-bye.

    So shiny black nails are ok???

  18. Derrick says:

    Emcee:
    I love how people think all gays choose to be gay.

    I love how gays think they were born that way.

  19. Marcus says:

    Derrick:
    I love how gays think they were born that way.

    So if a person isn’t born gay how does he become gay? How is a gay person supposed to control who he/she is attracted to?

  20. Derrick says:

    Marcus:
    So if a person isn’t born gay how does he become gay?How is a gay person supposed to control who he/she is attracted to?

    Bible says men are to grow up, leave their mother and find a woman.

  21. Emcee says:

    Derrick:
    So shiny black nails are ok???

    We need all sorts of smilies so I can give you the “ugh” face.

  22. Emcee says:

    Derrick:
    Bible says men are to grow up, leave their mother and find a woman.

    Bible also says, “an eye for an eye”

    Did you choose to be your race? Rather your sex? When did you choose to like women…oh right probably right after the first two.

  23. Marcus says:

    Derrick:
    Bible says men are to grow up, leave their mother and find a woman.

    That may be the best non answer you’ve ever given me.

  24. Aberk says:

    Marcus: Why is everybody hating on the man bag?

    It’s called a satchel. Indiana Jones had one.

  25. Derrick says:

    Emcee:
    Bible also says, “an eye for an eye”
    Did you choose to be your race?Rather your sex?When did you choose to like women…oh right probably right after the first two.

    so what you’re saying is……all your likes and dislikes are predetermined at birth?

    Then why is it so hard to decide on a school of choice, what to eat for dinner, what car to buy, where to live, what job to select?

    Marcus:
    That may be the best non answer you’ve ever given me.

    This is what I do

  26. Emcee says:

    Derrick:
    so what you’re saying is……all your likes and dislikes are predetermined at birth?Then why is it so hard to decide on a school of choice, what to eat for dinner, what car to buy, where to live, what job to select?

    Derrick we have to work on you answering questions with actual answers.

    Well…if you believe your life is preordained by God then sure…you might have no selections. But again, did you choose your race, or your sexuality?

  27. Nita says:

    Emcee: I love how people think all gays choose to be gay.

    It is a choice.

  28. Nita says:

    Marcus: So if a person isn’t born gay how does he become gay? How is a gay person supposed to control who he/she is attracted to?

    I am with Derrick on that one. The bible says that God knew you before you were formed in your mothers womb. He created you. He knew what sex He wanted you to be….and that is what you came out of your mothers womb as. For a man, you came out with a penis because God wanted you to live the life of a man…as for a woman you came out with a vagina because God purposed you to live your life as a woman. God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve or Eve and Eva.
    To God be the glory!

  29. Derrick says:

    Emcee:
    Derrick we have to work on you answering questions with actual answers.Well…if you believe your life is preordained by God then sure…you might have no selections.But again, did you choose your race, or your sexuality?

    you’re asking me did I choose physical traits. no, unfortunately, i did not. being “gay” is not physical.

  30. Derrick says:

    Nita: I am with Derrick on that one.The bible says that God knew you before you were formed inyour mothers womb.He created you.He knew what sex He wanted you to be….and that is what you came out of your mothers womb as.For a man, you came out with a penis because God wanted you to live the life of a man…as for a woman you came out with a vagina because God purposed you to live your life as a woman.God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve or Eve and Eva.
    To God be the glory!

    AMEN!

  31. Marcus says:

    Nita: I am with Derrick on that one.The bible says that God knew you before you were formed inyour mothers womb.He created you.He knew what sex He wanted you to be….and that is what you came out of your mothers womb as.For a man, you came out with a penis because God wanted you to live the life of a man…as for a woman you came out with a vagina because God purposed you to live your life as a woman.God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve or Eve and Eva.
    To God be the glory!

    We aren’t talking about people who got sex changes. We are talking about people who are involved in same sex relationships.

    So if a person is gay should they just force themselves to be heterosexual?

  32. Nita says:

    Marcus: We aren’t talking about people who got sex changes. We are talking about people who are involved in same sex relationships.So if a person is gay should they just force themselves to be heterosexual?

    Do you force yourself to be attracted to woman or does it just come natural to you? There is nothing natual about being a homosexual or a lesbian.

  33. Emcee says:

    Nita: Do you force yourself to be attracted to woman or does it just come natural to you?There is nothing natual about being a homosexual or a lesbian.

    Nita, you know you just disproved yourself with that statement. You’re correct, I did not choose to be straight I was born this way. So…if I can be born this way…why couldn’t some one be born gay? And if God created me, why could he not create a gay person? He creates presidents, homeless people, CEOs and ummm why not gay people? He is the creator of all things right? If he didn’t create gay people who did? Not Satan, he’s just the little maker of evil thoughts.

  34. Derrick says:

    Emcee:
    Nita, you know you just disproved yourself with that statement.You’re correct, I did not choose to be straight I was born this way.So…if I can be born this way…why couldn’t some one be born gay?And if God created me, why could he not create a gay person?He creates presidents, homeless people, CEOs and ummm why not gay people?He is the creator of all things right?If he didn’t create gay people who did?Not Satan, he’s just the little maker of evil thoughts.

    Please provide reference from the Bible where gay people were created.

  35. Emcee says:

    Derrick:
    Please provide reference from the Bible where gay people were created.

    Derrick, please prove where is says he didn’t.

    Psalm 104:24, 30
    How many are your works, O Lord! In wisdom you made them all; the earth is full of your creatures…. When you send your Spirit, they are created, and you renew the face of the earth.
    -ALL THINGS

    Psalm 24:1‑2
    The earth is the LORD’s and everything in it, the world, and all who live in it; for he founded it upon the seas and established it upon the waters.
    -EVERYTHING WHO LIVE IN IT

    Hebrews 11:3
    By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God’s command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.
    EVERYTHING IN THE UNIVERSE

    Isaiah 44:24
    This is what the LORD says‑your Redeemer, who formed you in the womb: I am the LORD, who has made all things, who alone stretched out the heavens, who spread out the earth by myself.
    -EVEN GAY BABIES

  36. Aberk says:

    Emcee:
    Derrick, please prove where is says he didn’t.Psalm 104:24, 30How many are your works, O Lord! In wisdom you made them all; the earth is full of your creatures…. When you send your Spirit, they are created, and you renew the face of the earth.
    -ALL THINGSPsalm 24:1‑2The earth is the LORD’s and everything in it, the world, and all who live in it; for he founded it upon the seas and established it upon the waters.
    -EVERYTHING WHO LIVE IN ITHebrews 11:3By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God’s command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.
    EVERYTHING IN THE UNIVERSEIsaiah 44:24This is what the LORD says‑your Redeemer, who formed you in the womb: I am the LORD, who has made all things, who alone stretched out the heavens, who spread out the earth by myself.
    -EVEN GAY BABIES

    Ezekiel 25:17. “The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the
    tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through
    the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother’s keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike
    down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you!

  37. Marcus says:

    Nita: Do you force yourself to be attracted to woman or does it just come natural to you?There is nothing natual about being a homosexual or a lesbian.

    Main Entry: 1nat·u·ral
    Pronunciation: \ˈna-chə-rəl, ˈnach-rəl\
    Function: adjective
    Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French naturel, from Latin naturalis of nature, from natura nature
    Date: 14th century

    1 : based on an inherent sense of right and wrong

    To me the word inherent implies a personal feeling or direction. Its not up to us to determine what a single person feels.

  38. Derrick says:

    Ok. now we’re cooking.

    Genesis 2:22
    Then the LORD God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.
    WOMAN MADE FROM MAN TO BE MAN’S PARTNER

    Genesis 1:22
    God blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth.”
    HAVE BABIES. 2 BOYS CAN’T MAKE A BABY. 2 WOMEN CAN’T MAKE A BABY

    Sorry nay sayers.

  39. Emcee says:

    Derrick: Ok.now we’re cooking.Genesis 2:22
    Then the LORD God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.
    WOMAN MADE FROM MAN TO BE MAN’S PARTNERGenesis 1:22
    God blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth.”
    HAVE BABIES.2 BOYS CAN’T MAKE A BABY.2 WOMEN CAN’T MAKE A BABYSorry nay sayers.

    Derrick, you are still full of fail. You just proved that God made man and woman for/from each other and to reproduce. I think you’re missing the debate that we are having. Remember we are talking about whether God actually created gay people and choice. I know how sex works…guess they didn’t teach that at abstinence class. I will continue to wait for your proof of God not making gay people.

  40. Derrick says:

    Emcee:
    Derrick, you are still full of fail.You just proved that God made man and woman for/from each other and to reproduce.I think you’re missing the debate that we are having.Remember we are talking about whether God actually created gay people and choice.I know how sex works…guess they didn’t teach that at abstinence class.I will continue to wait for your proof of God not making gay people.

    I see your interpretation doesn’t go deeper than surface level. what part of woman from man do YOU not understand? Woman came from Man to be Man’s partner. Not man from man to be man’s partner. This wasn’t a state of mitosis. God intended it this way. Had he intended for men to be with men and women to be with women, neither I nor you would be here my dear cyber friend.

    Next time you see an older heterosexual couple, tell them thank you for progressing life.

  41. Emcee says:

    Derrick:
    I see your interpretation doesn’t go deeper than surface level.what part of woman from man do YOU not understand?Woman came from Man to be Man’s partner.Not man from man to be man’s partner.This wasn’t a state of mitosis.God intended it this way.Had he intended for men to be with men and women to be with women, neither I nor you would be here my dear cyber friend.Next time you see an older heterosexual couple, tell them thank you for progressing life.

    My interpretation is pretty good. God created everything, even the murderers and the gays. I AGAIN understand that man and woman are to be together and how the sexy works, but for you to say that God does not create imperfect people is blindness. How would you explain mentally disabled people (MDP), or children born without limbs (CBWL). I am not saying gay people are imperfect but I find it funny that people can accept MDP and CBWL but not gay people. God never messes up does he?

  42. Derrick says:

    God mess up? NEVER!

    God also grants us free spirit, so if some one chooses to be gay, that is them exercising their free spirit, not them saying they were born that way after being rejected by 20 girls in their lifetime. Leading to them realizing that they were “born gay” at age 26. :-/

  43. Emcee says:

    Your infinite wisdom is too much for me, and your proof is unbreakable. Yeah, rejection…right.

  44. Kandi says:

    Emcee: Your infinite wisdom is too much for me, and your proof is unbreakable. Yeah, rejection…right.

    Being homosexual is a learned behavior …people really aren’t born as homosexuals. God doesn’t make mistakes and I would have to agree with Derrick – we do have free spirits and choosing to be a homosexual is a choice.

  45. Marcus says:

    Kandi:
    Being homosexual is a learned behavior …people really aren’t born ashomosexuals. God doesn’t make mistakes and I would have to agree with Derrick – we do have free spirits and choosing to be a homosexual is a choice.

    I’ve still yet to see any proof that people aren’t born homosexual. Are there some scientific tests to quote?

  46. Emcee says:

    Kandi:
    Being homosexual is a learned behavior …people really aren’t born ashomosexuals. God doesn’t make mistakes and I would have to agree with Derrick – we do have free spirits and choosing to be a homosexual is a choice.

    Kandi, did you choose to be straight?

  47. Latoya says:

    Marcus: We aren’t talking about people who got sex changes. We are talking about people who are involved in same sex relationships.So if a person is gay should they just force themselves to be heterosexual?

    Homosexuality is a learned behavior because homeans have free will and choice. God created man in his own image….so if individuals are born homosexual, you are saying that God was homosexual. The Bible condemns homosexuality.
    Lev. 18:22, “You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.”

    Lev. 20:13, “If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them. ”

  48. Latoya says:

    Not homeans….humans.

  49. Marcus says:

    Latoya:
    Homosexuality is a learned behavior because homeans have free will and choice. God created man in his own image….so if individuals are born homosexual, you are saying that God was homosexual. The Bible condemns homosexuality.
    Lev. 18:22, “You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.”Lev. 20:13, “If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them. ”

    YOU said humans are created in god’s image. I said people are born gay. I asked for science, you gave me a verse. But lets travel down that road for a second. If god created man in his image are the rapers, drug dealers, and cap peelers created in god’s image?

    Is god a raper, drug dealer, and cap peeler?

  50. Latoya says:

    N

    Marcus: YOU said humans are created in god’s image. I said people are born gay. I asked for science, you gave me a verse. But lets travel down that road for a second. If god created man in his image are the rapers, drug dealers, and cap peelers created in god’s image?Is god a raper, drug dealer, and cap peeler?

    No…those people make a choice to rape, sell drugs, and peel caps!

  51. Kandi says:

    Thank you Latoya. The point of individuals making CHOICES, whether right or wrong, seems to continously be overlooked. Emcee, being “straight” is all I’ve ever known and all I was ever taught & exposed to as a child. A man is supposed to be/intended to be with a woman. Period.

  52. Nita says:

    First giving glory and honor to God who is the head of my life! The bible tells us that in all our getting we should get understanding. So I pray that God grants us the wisdom, knowledge, and understanding we need in discussing this topic. Seems as if there is a lot of confusion, and as the bible tells us…God is not the author of confusion. First thing first, lets not use God’s word to justify our wrong doings. Second, we have to understand that everything that God made is good! When God created us we were good. However, due to the whole Adam and Eve situation, we were all born into sin. God didn’t created gay babies. When we were infants, we weren’t thinking of gay or straight. As we grew, that is were our decision making abilities came in. Someone mentioned that the devil is the maker of evil thoughts. I agree. Do you think that the devil cares how old you are before he starts releasing those evil thoughts??? No, he doesn’t care. Someone also mentioned wanting a scientific answer. LaToya did the best thing when she gave you a verse. God is not scientific…He is God. Our creator…the creator of all things. Also, someone made mention that since God created all things, and all things good and bad alike…he created gays, murderers, rapers, drug dealers, thieves. Again, God created the human, the human allowed the devil to come in and decieve them, then made the choice to do what they do or be who they are. Check this out…
    22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

    23And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

    24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

    25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

    26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

    27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

    28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

    29Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

    30Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

    31Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

    32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
    Study and show thyself approved. Now if there is anyone that is reading this that falls under any of these categories…know that God is using surveymagnet.com as a resource to get this info to you. Now when judgement day rolls around…you can’t say you weren’t told…either you are going to hear one of two things….Depart from me, I know you not…or well done thy good and faithful servent.

  53. Derrick says:

    Nita: First ….(a lot of other stuff)…

    Beautifully put.

  54. Marcus says:

    1) How do you know if a baby is gay or straight? Have you ever asked one?

    2) LOL @ I’ve warned you now do it or you’re going to hell. I’m sure thats how god wants the word to spread around…through Taliban style death threats.

    3) Nobody ever answered my question about a manpurse 30 comments ago :(

  55. Emcee says:

    Kandi: Thank you Latoya. The point of individuals making CHOICES, whether right or wrong, seems to continously be overlooked. Emcee, being “straight” is all I’ve ever known and all I was ever taught & exposed to as a child. A man is supposed to be/intended to be with a woman. Period.

    So you really think you learned to be straight? My mother is a devout church lady, she NEVER told me “get a someone of the opposite sex” and I’m sure yours didn’t either. Just like animals know how to have sex or birds know how to fly. It’s ingrained. Like I said earlier, being born with a deformity is not a choice, why couldn’t someones brain get switched?

  56. Derrick says:

    Emcee:
    So you really think you learned to be straight?My mother is a devout church lady, she NEVER told me “get a someone of the opposite sex” and I’m sure yours didn’t either.Just like animals know how to have sex or birds know how to fly.It’s ingrained.Like I said earlier, being born with a deformity is not a choice, why couldn’t someones brain get switched?

    How does one’s brain get switched???

  57. Nita says:

    Marcus: 1) How do you know if a baby is gay or straight? Have you ever asked one?2) LOL @ I’ve warned you now do it or you’re going to hell. I’m sure thats how god wants the word to spread around…through Taliban style death threats.3) Nobody ever answered my question about a manpurse 30 comments ago

    Marcus…you are a hoot!! Always have a comeback!! Don’t know what we are going to do with you. Anyway, If you think that being straight forward in explaining to someone that their choices are going to either lead them to heaven or hail is harsh, then don’t do right…end up in hell, and see if you would have prefered someone to sugar coat the message for you or boldly deliver it to you. Your choice. Not saying that people should run up to you and say…”CHOOSE GOD OR DIE!” However, the way God leads them in telling you…that should be the message you get…cause it is the truth! The bible states that the wages of sin is death. That is the reality of it. We just have to know it is being said in love!!!! I don’t want anyone I care about or even my enemies to go to hell.

  58. Marcus says:

    We see you have no problem delivering this message. Care to take the blinders off and answer my first question? You ever asked a baby if he was gay or straight?

  59. Emcee says:

    Derrick:
    How does one’s brain get switched???

    Derrick, another question to a question. Maybe you should ask God since he has all the answers. A switch, a non-voluntary thing that happens in your brain or while in the womb. You will admit that not every baby is born perfect, correct? So what if a baby is born with both genitals, male and female. Doc chooses one…oops wrong one. Confused kid. But suppose the baby was born with one or the other, brain picked the wrong one. Either way, all of the “church folk” still haven’t disproved me other than saying ‘GAY PEOPLE ARE SIN”

  60. Nita says:

    Emcee are you gay?

  61. Nita says:

    Marcus: We see you have no problem delivering this message. Care to take the blinders off and answer my first question? You ever asked a baby if he was gay or straight?

    No, I have never asked a baby if he was gay or not. Let me try that right now and ask my 11 month old nephew….just a sec. Ahhh, he is too busy being a boy ramming trucks into each other. Maybe you can try it with another infant and let me know how that goes.

  62. Nita says:

    Emcee, I may have been out of line to ask you if you were gay or not. That is just flat our rude. Please accept my apology. That was totally out of line. I am just curious in knowing why you feel so strong about this when God’s word goes against what it is that you are saying.

  63. Marcus says:

    Nita:
    No, I have never asked a baby if he was gay or not.Let me try that right now and ask my 11 month old nephew….just a sec.Ahhh, he is too busy being a boy ramming trucks into each other.Maybe you can try it with another infant and let me know how that goes.

    Thanks for proving that you can’t prove that babies are either gay or straight.

  64. miked says:

    I’m just going to say people using scripture from the Bible (the incomplete one I might add.  That piece of modified heresy created in 1881 called the king james most people are using) is about the same as me using Mother Goose to argue the same point.  Come back and talk bible to me when you start quoting 1611 and before, otherwise, you’re just quoting fairy tales.

    Now, on to people being born gay.  ;-)  If God makes people and they’re born in sin, whose to say he or she wouldn’t make people with a predisposition for one sin over another?  No where in the bible has anyone shown me where it says he won’t make people born gay, born predisposed to one sin or another, and all of the other arguments people make about sexual orientation not being decided at birth and people choosing otherwise is denying themselves.  Those that argue against the idea are committing one of the greatest fallacies of man, attributing human logic to a being that exists outside of it and doesn’t use the same reasoning that man does.  The fact we say God doesn’t make gay people is like saying he didn’t make Satan to cause the downfall of man because he doesn’t make mistakes and that sin is something he couldn’t create but just “spawned” itself into existence.

    The question about homosexuality isn’t about whether you’re born that way or not, but whether you choose to fall prey to your inner desires or not.  Ya’ll kill me with this nonsense.  Damned fundamentalists of the flawed book.

  65. Derrick says:

    Emcee:
    Derrick, another question to a question.Maybe you should ask God since he has all the answers.A switch, a non-voluntary thing that happens in your brain or while in the womb.You will admit that not every baby is born perfect, correct?So what if a baby is born with both genitals, male and female.Doc chooses one…oops wrong one.Confused kid.But suppose the baby was born with one or the other, brain picked the wrong one.Either way, all of the “church folk” still haven’t disproved me other than saying ‘GAY PEOPLE ARE SIN”

    Aw, yes, the Jamie Lee Curtis theory. Unfortunately, God knows all and plans everything. He put Barack in office and allowed the dragonfly to hit your windshield and die. These imperfections as you think they are, are not that at all. These occurrences created more love and positions for people in life that otherwise would not have existed. However, be it as it may, these people still know and grow up as a boy OR girl and live life as such. If they CHOOSE to change buses later in life, it is still an earthly choice.

  66. Derrick says:

    miked:….The question about homosexuality isn’t about whether you’re born that way or not, but whether you choose to fall prey to your inner desires or not…

    Score one more for the good guys!

  67. Emcee says:

    Site Admins, I bet Nita wants that edit feature.

    Nita: Emcee, I may have been out of line to ask you if you were gay or not.That is just flat our rude.Please accept my apology.That was totally out of line.I am just curious in knowing why you feel so strong about this when God’s word goes against what it is that you are saying.

    Apology accepted. I am not gay, and I’m actually close to being married. Been with my lady for 4 years 7 months and we bought a house together.

    If I was gay, how does this matter? Gonna save me? Just messing.

    Derrick:
    Score one more for the good guys!

    Derrick, pretty sad that you to think I’m a bad guy. I just don’t believe all people who are homosexual chose it. One of my gay friends from back when I was a young church going lad, prayed over his “inner desires” and that he be freed of his demons. But couldn’t you say your inner desires are natural instincts?

  68. Derrick says:

    Emcee:

    (didn’t feel like copying all the above) I’m not calling you a bad guy. I’m just a good guy (period). I respect your mind and voice. My opinion is that you and a few others have odd perception of things. I believe inner desires are weakness of your own spirit. My inner desire could be rob a bank or something odd. If I succumb to it, then I am weak and wrong if I was taught and know better or otherwise.

  69. Marcus says:

    Nita: Emcee are you gay?

    I think God just docked you a point :(

  70. miked says:

    You know, if pollution is behind the surge in men becoming feminine then how do all of the points we’ve just argued apply.

    If you don’t believe it, check out http://bit.ly/4D0uhK for further info.

    Yes, if plastics are turning men into women on accident, then what can men do about it.  Should they do anything about it?  If it causes them to become gay, is it still a choice?  I’m not even going to mention the threat of fire and brimstone.

  71. Derrick says:

    miked: You know, if pollution is behind the surge in men becoming feminine then how do all of the points we’ve just argued apply.If you don’t believe it, check out http://bit.ly/4D0uhK for further info.Yes, if plastics are turning men into women on accident, then what can men do about it.  Should they do anything about it?  If it causes them to become gay, is it still a choice?  I’m not even going to mention the threat of fire and brimstone.

    What about tap water? :-o


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